Manuel 11:03 Sun Mar 31
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Coffee - Where I'm staying isn't as close to tha pae gate as I thought, about a 20 min walk, so in this heat 100bt in a tuk tuk.

Eerie Descent 11:00 Sun Mar 31
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If that is Kudus doing what Gordon did at the other end, and the ref didn't give it, there would be another thread started about corrupt officiating.

We have had more than our fair share of dodgy decisions the last couple of seasons, stop blaming refs for us being shit.

Coffee 9:41 Sun Mar 31
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Night Bazaar probably?

Manuel 9:33 Sun Mar 31
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Where? I'm a tourist so obviously in the centre, does that have it's own name?

Coffee 9:29 Sun Mar 31
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Where in Chiang Mai are you?

Manuel 9:23 Sun Mar 31
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Btw, don't get me wrong the on field decision should have stood, but we now have a couple of blokes in a room miles away reffing games now, and what happened to clear and obvious??

Watched this game in Chiang Mai, it's a trifle warm here.

Mex Martillo 9:13 Sun Mar 31
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Ings should have gone on for Antonio, he has been a good sub lately.
If Phillips needed time he shou!d have gone on for JWP, who wasn't doing much. That would have kept our shape better to help keep the ball a bit and reduce pressure on our not so solid defence.

Manuel 9:10 Sun Mar 31
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Coffee - He should have put Ings on for Antonio, he went defensive when he didn't have to as they were not even a threat at that point, the crowd had given up and their players were dropping like flies, they even had to sub off two of their subs, Moyes just gifted them the initiative.

As for the pen, Phillips made no contact with the ball and took out their player instead, I don't see how it's relevant as to how that come about, conceding a pen doesn't have to be a deliberate act.

Mex Martillo 9:06 Sun Mar 31
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I don't like it. Would you say Gordon was actually trying to play the ball. He fooled Coufal, Phillips and the ref. Crap sad way to play football. With VAR you'd think such gamemanship could be spotted and not rewarded.

This is what the Guardian said.

The spot-kick was awarded after Gordon marked his return from England duty by manoeuvring himself between Vladimir Coufal and the ball. Sure enough, the defender was provoked into conceding what briefly, and deceptively, appeared an afternoon-defining penalty.

When Gordon reprised his first-half party trick and squeezed himself between Phillips and the ball in the area a foul was drawn, the video assistant referee intervened and a penalty was awarded.

Coffee 8:59 Sun Mar 31
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Manuel 6:29 Sun Mar 31

I can well imagine another ref not giving it. Why? Because Philips had already started the kick/clearance before the Newcastle fellow stuck his foot in. In a different part of the field, chances are that it may not have been given.

As for Manuel 7:17 Sun Mar 31, I would have left him on for longer, but guess Moyes' logic was that (i) the game was in our hands and should have been won and just required playing out like many other previous games where we had a comfortable lead; and (ii) that Antonio needs a bit of cotton wool wrapping, particularly with four important games coming up in the next fortnight. This is what he's often done before.

Why did it go pear-shaped yesterday? Was it just because Moyes took off Antonio? No, things like that rarely happen for one reason alone. It was as though the whole team took their collective foot off the pedal, allowing Newcastle to get back into the game. And once they'd got one back, momentum had been established and the rest is unfortunate history.

By the way, what's happened to Mubama?

Manuel 7:07 Sun Mar 31
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Imagine putting a sub on at 3-1 up to shore up the game (even though it didn't need to be done) and it having the EXACT opposite effect, as a manager at this level wouldn't you be having a serious word with yourself? In this case probably not as he did exactly the same thing against Villa. It would almost be funny if it wasn't so fucking tragic.

Manuel 6:29 Sun Mar 31
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Of course it was a fucking penalty, due to Phillips being so fucking slow he made no contact with the ball whatsoever and made full contact with Gordon's foot at pace. Do some really think it wasn't a pen because he didn't mean to do it??

Alfs 5:27 Sun Mar 31
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How MOTD failed to discuss the penalty, I will never know.

Excellent point made earlier re Downes, but that's down to Moyes again, spitting his dummy out of the pram because he wasn't his choice. We'd also be about 8 million quid better off.

Saw a Newcastle supporter mate tonight who said that no way was it a pen, and that every time Kudus got the ball he shat himself.

Burnhammeronsea 3:21 Sun Mar 31
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Moyes mentioned the lunge from Gordon for the penalty on MOTD but they did not even mention it. That would have taken the edge of the Magpies love in.

Full Claret Jacket 3:13 Sun Mar 31
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Just watched the highlights on MOTD again. Phillip's half hearted challenges, lack of urgency and trotting about caused all the last three goals. I would say he was unlucky with a terrible penalty shout but he invited it by hesitating. The lack of a challenge on Barnes for the winner just unforgivable.
For all the mismatch with our system in how Ings plays, I've seen him put himself about, track back and put more heart into a game than this chump. If Phillip's doesnt have the character to want to improve and put a shift in then he can go back now. A monumental transfer window dud.

Not surprisingly MOTD avoided talking about any of the dubious decisions and spent the time praising Newcastle.

zico 3:10 Sun Mar 31
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Newcastle missed two sitters at 3..1 and Moyes panicked. If he wanted to control the midfield a bit more then just get Paqueta to sit a bit deeper at least then he is in there to hit direct missiles over the top to the front three. And if you are going to bring Johnson on bring him on earlier to replace Coufal who was run ragged. Just don't know what Moyes was thinking taking off his counter attack outlet.

Badhabit 3:05 Sun Mar 31
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Surprise surprise. MotD bottle job. No discussion of the two pens. Total focus on Saudi United. Also became clear that Gordon did the same leg-in-front trick for both pens. Showed himself to be a nasty little shite as well.

Forest Gate Ugly 2:45 Sun Mar 31
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Drove there and back. Won’t do that again. Was shaping up to be a memorable away day. Their fans were embarrassing. No noise for 85 minutes. I’ve always been quite impressed by the Geordies but really poor home support. We were massive. Obviously

jfk 2:40 Sun Mar 31
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Another complete fuck up from Moyes was to ship in Phillips purely as he thought he must be decent as a city player which is in itsf hugely questionable.
Phillips I’d about as bad as I’ve witnessed I’m 57,you could I suppose give the bloke a chance but he’s been a monumentallly fucking shit a terrible player.
Surely Ings deserves a second chance????
No chance Moyes knows better the shit cunt.

Matthew Holmes 2:36 Sun Mar 31
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Newcastle had a couple of openings just before the sub and maybe Antonio needed to go off as we were 3 1 up.

It's tricky as no way you xoukd take off any of the front 3 but after hes gone we've lost our focal point and as has bee pointed out Paqueta is gone from midfield.

It was a risk and it failed miserably. Moyes is paid to win games and he funked up here big-time. AGAIN!

maybe we'll get another bite of the cherry as their squad is still funked. But really a massive opportunity wasted.

I'm gutted. And these Geordies wittering about the head injury need to have a word with themselves.

Imagine if the head injury protocol was used everything some fanny went down clutching their face. About 15 times per game x 5 nuns = 75 extra mins. Ffs

Oh well Sunday tomorrow.

Mex Martillo 2:34 Sun Mar 31
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Nice post threesixty 11:01 Sat Mar 30, agree about Moyesias plan to defend, but didn't work so it's easy to criticise and say what would have been better... I think if Phillips had come on for JWP we would have won. If Antonio needs a break, bring on Ings, he was very good against the Germans and for me we have to try and keep doing what was winning. Phillips for Antonio changed the game, we didn't have enough attackers to keep the ball, more pressure on the defence, mistakes, concede goals, thats what happens and what did happen.

The Fonz, that's ManU isn't it? We're West Ham, it's different for us...

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